My 12 year old daughter hates me and is fueled by her father

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My ex husband left in 2000 when our kids were 4 and 3 to have a relationship with a 21 year old girl...he was 32. We were divorced in 2001. He only wanted every other weekend visitation with them. It was a struggle to get him to pay child support. I made sure my kids never went without and didn't discuss the pressure I was under. He was self-employed during this time so he knew the games he could play with withholding child support and did. My ex is a manipulator, has always talked down about me and my family to our children, plays mind games with the children, and loves to "pretend" he is there for the kids. In 2008 he finally got a job with an employer. Because of this child support staring coming directly out of his paycheck. He was furious! He talked to our kids about wanting them to come live with him full-time. At first my 12 year old son was on board and absolutely hated me. He would tell me that his dad has no money cuz he had to pay child support. That I am a LOSER! That when he is with his dad he can do whatever he wants, and that I am constantly in his business…like wanting to know who he is with and what he is doing on the weekend. My 11 year daughter wasn't really sure. Court papers were filed. My life became a living hell. I got away from my ex through a divorce, but now he was reentering my home through the brain washing he was doing to the kids. It took my son 13 months to realize what his dad was doing. He no longer wanted to live with his dad full-time, but go 50/50. My ex could no longer get to our son, so he turned his manipulation on our daughter. He has let her down so many times during the past 9 years that this new display of attention and affection is what she was craving from her father. She turned on me and since Dec 2008 has such loyalty to her dad. I believe that in order for her relationship with her father to continue, she has to hate me as much as he hates me. Every heard of a sociopath...that is my ex. All he cares about is winning at any cost. He uses the kids and there is nothing I can do right now to get them to see it because of their age. I have been told the parent they know will unconditionally be there for them is the one that takes so much abuse. The parent that has been absent...walks on water and can continue to disappoint them, but they get angry at the one who always follows through for them...in this case, that’s me! I knew I could win if this went through court and a guardian at lieum...but at what cost? My kids would hate me cuz their dad wanted them and they wanted it to be fair, so in March of 2009 I decided to end this and agreed to 50/50 placement. My ex is still playing mind games with our 12 year old daughter. She tells me on a regular basis that she hates me, to "F..off", that I am a loser, that I have no life, and has such a negative attitude and tone towards any normal conversation I have with her. Our son, who just turned 14, came to me and said, "Mom, I cannot understand why Kendra has such a deep, deep hatred towards you." I have always come to all her extra curricular events. Now she will not even acknowledge my presence. I can say "Hi, honey" or "Good Game" and she will just walk away from me. If her dad happens to come to an event, which is rare, she will make a big scene about ignoring me. Her dad and she will giggle about it like two teenage girls. I cry myself to sleep so many nights, because I love her, I have been there for her, and she treats me like a door mat. She is so blinded right now and I have serious concerns about her anger and lack of any type of empathy towards me and people other than her dad. I need peace in my life, but feel letting her go live with her dad full-time would only worsen her because of his "sociopath" personality. For those of you who don't know what I am dealing with, please Google "sociopath" before responding to my post. I cannot find anyone around me who has been through something similar. If you have been, and can give me advice, please respond.
Last Post Jan 27, 2012 1:15 AM by: Mark_Manning08
Mark_Manning08
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Re: My 12 year old daughter hates me and is fueled by her father

Jan 27, 2012 1:15 AM
i hope everything gets better in the end.
delica1211
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Re: My 12 year old daughter hates me and is fueled by her father

Jan 22, 2012 11:24 PM
Actually i am wondered why the girls are behaving like this..?What is the reason behind that?In such type cases what should you do is,let her to live with her father.Gradually she will recognize the meaning of her mother's words.And she will understand her father's character also.So she will know the pain through her experience itself.

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watdoido
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Re: My 12 year old daughter hates me and is fueled by her father

Jan 10, 2012 3:44 PM
I dont know what to do. My ex has turned my kids against me. They lie about me and will do anything to cause me pain. My ex was abusive to me and the kids but now he is the greatest. He wont pay child support, but he will buy the kids off. I dont know why they have such hate for me now, I have been a very good mother, but now everything I do is wrong. I am still trying to be a parent and he has become their buddy. He lets them run wild and has told them they dont have to do anything I say. If I try to discipline them they call Dad and then there is a big blow up. Everything I do is wrong. He sends me nasty texts and voicemails, he lies about me to everyone I know, and has the kids thinking I am a monster. I get so upset all I do is cry. He has even told them I cry only to make them feel guilty. The oldest is 17 and is so verbally, emotionally, and at times physically abusive. It was so bad last year I actually had to pay a babysitter for a 16 year old. I tried to get him help and get him in a scared straigh or bootcamp program, but the ex turned that around on me and said your mom doesnt want you. He was put on probation and when I tell the probation officer how my son is acting his Dad is there to defend him, always making me look like the bad guy. He wont pay child support and the kids get mad if I cant afford expensive things. Their Dad tells them he is to broke, because he pays to much child support. Somehow, he is not to broke for a new 52 inch tv, new laptop, new clothes, new truck, new furniture, new blueray, new kindle, and countless video games for the kids. It has been so hard that I finally told my oldest to pack his things. He said he would be happy at Dads so I told him he can go if it will make him happy. His Dad is a truck driver and when he leaves out on the road my son will be there alone, because I dont think he will come back home. People keep saying your the mom make him, but that is easier said than done. He is 6'6 and out weighs me by 60 lbs, I cant make him do anything. Everytime I try to talk to the kids they blow up and it makes things worse. I have tried to talk to my ex, but he twists everything I say and uses it against me. I found out I had cancer and it has put a lot of stress on me. I have been tired a lot and after surgey we had sandwiches a few nights, but my ex tells them I am just sorry and lazy. I have tried to be nice but I am at the end of my rope. He has been blackmailing me and using the kids against me for so long. I finally went to talk to a lawyer about the contuniued abuse, but I fear it will only make him sue for custody. I keep dreaming about the kids being grown in 6 years and never having to deal with their Dad again... it is the HOPE that keeps me going.
sad but true
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From: wales
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(16 of 19)

Re: My 12 year old daughter hates me and is fueled by her father

Nov 20, 2011 10:22 PM
I didnt think that anyone could have been through what i am going through at the moment but after reading these posts I know different!

I did it all bringing up my children and now i am alone after being undermined by my ex partner ~ and what is more my precious children cannot see it. He created a situation where they could no longer see the good in anything that I did and I have been left wondering if I was really as bad as they say.

My daughter blames me for all her problems, my other daughter also left, and because of a car accident which left my rambunctious son quadriplegic ~ the court gave residency to this mann who had never lived with us or wanted to be on the birth certificates ~ the two children who were with me were devestated as they wanted to stay with me but as my ex had a house ~ while I was a single parent renting property they gave my children to him.

At this point I had been a mother for 18yrs and now I have been left with nothing but me and I am trying to go on, I am empty inside, the accident was just that an accident and I will alway have the guilt of my son and the pain that I am not there to nurture any of my children.
paigeology
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Re: My 12 year old daughter hates me and is fueled by her father

Nov 20, 2011 1:38 AM
My situation is nearly identical! Except my EX disappeared for 4 years. I re-married during that time and my husband was the one who was there for them the whole time. Now, my children hate me and especially hate my husband. My son went to live with his dad 4 years ago and this summer my daughter went to visit her dad and didn't come back. It was ugly! My heart is absolutely broken and I have no idea whats best or what to do anymore.
bjstahl
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Re: My 13 yr. daughter hates me. I have no clue why. HELP

Oct 30, 2011 9:32 PM
My daughter and i were like 2 peas in a pod. Its been 3 years now and doesnt except my calls or txt msg. Yes i have a regular visitation order but i dont follow it now shes 13 shes doing her own social life with middle school friends. Ive sent packages and card to remind her that i love her. But honestly in my heart i know ive lost her, and frankly my depression is severe. Kids these days are so selfish, but again there kids. It started when the mother and i had a verbal argument in front of my daughter. no physical contact just screaming and cussing. So i wonder is this the reason or could it be the poison being fed to her by her mother??

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Zoe Andre
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Re: My 12 year old daughter hates me and is fueled by her father

Jul 19, 2011 12:37 PM
My ex is a Sagittarius. I'm a Scorpio. While that is not a good mix, I'm not sure the zodiac is a major factor in this mess.

He is what the counselor has referred to as a "chaotic partner" or one who brings chaos and misery anytime there is any interaction at all with him. As the other posts indicate, my ex will do anything to "win" and do anything to paint me in the worst possible light and undermine me with my daughter. He is really good at it. I think he has been doing this to her all her life.

Unfortunately with the economy being what it is, my current husband obtained employment in a neighboring state and since I was working a 90 hour a week job (two jobs combined), we decided to move and live off of his salary and I could devote all of my time this year to my daughter who is starting to struggle socially in school.

I'm so sad it isn't going to work out this way. My life became a living hell when I tried to go to court to split the custody schedule 60/40 so there would be a "school parent" and a "vacation parent." Since my ex is on medical retirement due to extensive head injury, I figured it would be a good thing to have me as the "school parent." I really provided a stable environment but my daughter seems to crave the drama and chaos that occurs on a daily basis in my ex's home.

Based on the lies he tells her, she calls me a loser, liar, alcoholic, bad mother....you name it. The things she says really shock me as they seem to come right from his mouth and out of hers. She ended up acting out right before the move based a string of lies he told her about the place I was moving to and the circumstances. She told her father I pushed her against the wall. Of course, now there is much more drama due to the authorities being involved. I'm scared and and extremely sad as I have never even spanked her and have never been in trouble with anyone or over anything before. The two of them of "gloating" over their "power" to put me in my place. This has all just made her meaner towards me.

I should mention my daughter has been diagnosed with disruptive behavior disorder NOS. So, she has a disability that is being fueled by this guy who derives pleasure in demonstrating his "superiority" over me and my husband.

Now the issue is about broken trust. How can I be around a kid who doesn't want to be around me or her stepfather? Suppose she decides she is upset with something else we have done and tells her father something dreadful like her she saw her stepfather naked and he files a police report saying the stepfather exposed himself? Yikes, that would be a career ender and you would spend lots of resources to avoid going to jail!

Has anyone else faced this and if so, how did you resolve it? The whole thing is so sick and so very, very sad.

I feel for all the mothers out there who's hearts are broken by the very children they love, no matter what. I really love this kid and worry she is really messed up and it could end up destroying me or my husband.
Denise1
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Re: My 12 year old daughter hates me and is fueled by her father

Jul 18, 2011 3:18 PM
Wow, that sounds like my x too - everything revolved around him - is your husband's sun sign (birth sign) a Leo too? Born in August. I was born in March (Pisces) - the match didn't work for obvious reasons - read up on astrology - google it - also, look up numerology especially - and you will find your answers - I just wished I knew about this stuff when I was married - not AFTER I divorced@!!!
Denise1
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Re: My 12 year old daughter hates me and is fueled by her father

Jul 18, 2011 3:12 PM
Oh, yes, I've gone through all this as well - very similar. I feel very sorry for what you are going through right now, but just keep loving and time will heal things - you just need to stay consistent - he is such a loser like the one who used me too. Like Karma, he got what he deserved in the end.
Zoe Andre
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From: California
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Re: My 12 year old daughter hates me and is fueled by her father

Jul 18, 2011 9:58 AM
I'm going through the same nightmare! My ex has managed to turn my 12-year-old daughter against me. It is by far the worst thing I have ever gone through. My daughter and I are in counseling but it really isn't helping a whole lot. Someone tell me it will get better!
whoknowsanymore
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Re: My 12 year old daughter hates me and is fueled by her father

Jan 26, 2011 7:05 AM
No words can express the hurt and pain a mother has to endure when it comes to divorce and raising children! My two kids are ages 12 (daughter) and 10 (son). I've had issues with my ex-husband throughout our marriage, he's had numerous affairs and has two other children with another woman. He is currently on his third marriage with a woman who has a daughter herself. He's a manipulator and a liar and will stop at nothing to get his children because he doesn't want to pay child support, and wants to make my husband to be and my life a living hell so he can sneak his way back in.

Long story short, my daughter wants to live with her dad and I wouldn't allow it, so she decided to fabricate a story that my husband hit her across the face when he never did. My ex who works for the school system where we live and my daughter attends decided to ride with her story and DSS got involved, court, GAl and made our lives a living hell.
Everyone decided to side with my ex and not listen to a word my husband nor I have to say.

Needless to say, I'm pregnant to top it all off while my ex and daughter are trying to tear our family apart! To make a long story short I've decided to stop fighting my daughter and made the decision to let her live with her dad and to rid the nightmare. I have more important things to be concerned about with a baby on the way, and will not have my daughter disrespecting me nor my husband, so her and my ex deserve each other's misery. I love my daughter but I will not go through this nightmare being pregnant. She can learn the hard way and discover what her father is really all about on her own.
sookie
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Re: My 12 year old daughter hates me and is fueled by her father

Oct 31, 2010 8:53 PM
I came across this forum and felt I could add a couple cents worth I know what it's like. I'm still married to what I believe is a narcissist. I've been married 14 years and have a daughter who is 12. I want to leave so badly as I've had enough of his mind games, passive aggression with silent treatments (stonewalling) etc. When I ask if something is wrong he says “nothing” most of the time and doesn't look at me when I'm talking to him. He's has had angry outbursts and stomping off over weird things a lot during our marriage and I use to get so upset but now it's turned into anger and my not caring any more. He has told my daughter and I for years to "JUST LEAVE HIM ALONE" angrily whenever we’ve approached him trying to engage him in talking when we need him or when our daughter needed help with her homework. Most talks is usually about "his" job and nothing else. Our daughter & I have been not his priority and he has made this known because his job is what’s most important and his top priority over everything else and he considers it our relationship between us, since I don’t have a job that is the problem and once I have a job that will fix our marital problems. He never directly talks to me about serious things and when he does it’s either jokingly or he beats around the bush and thinks I can read his mind about what he wants without really discussing anything. If I bring up problems somehow he twist and turns everything into it being my problems as he can’t possibly be the problem because that would mean he’s a “Failure” and that is something he doesn't want to think and refuses to. I wish he'd have an affair but his only love is with himself and his job and considers women too high maintenance anyway. He has put me to the financial test without me knowing this and says I failed and took over his finances and moved his money into another account and now won't give me any money making it so I have to ask for things will only take me to get what I need but will not give me any cash. I want a divorce and have several times now told him this and want to talk about it but he won’t and will just sit there in silence like I didn't say anything. He just goes about each day like nothing was said. When I ask if he's going to respond about getting a divorce he says "Of Course Not!". I felt I was trying to be kind by allowing him to know but he just won't talk he's been ignoring me.I have sold things and am now in a position to leave and it will be my only chance but now I found out I have to wait because he has family coming in shortly, a last minute plan on their part so now it's postponed I'll have to wait a bit longer. Our daughter has been taking his side in things that are clearly him not making any sense and I have always done everything for her except bring in an income (just past few years as prior I was working in his business for many years before it was sold) and her dad has not even been there for her emotionally to give her any attention only I have. But it's like she laps up any attention he gives without regard to me. I've also noticed her becoming more hateful with me at times in her attitude. She has made it known that she does not want to leave her home or friends even though most of our family is where I'll be leaving to and the only family she's actually known. I know she will not want to go if I try and take her away she'd rather stay with her dad then go, so I'm in a pickle of what to do. I'm going to have to mount up some insurmountable courage almost like pulling her away and dealing with the fall out of her dad and her at the same time, I'm not looking forward to all of this. So reading this other post tells me what I'm going to have to deal with and not looking forward to.
fofo008
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Re: My 12 year old daughter hates me and is fueled by her father

Oct 27, 2010 12:09 AM
I will have to say church does help alot and having a meeting with the priest or pastor or a father.
Tons of prayers - can't say that enough.
Sit and talk with your daughter about what was said in church ( to see if she was paying attention )
give her a different ugg boots tall direction and positive direction to focus on. My ex hated me for taking the girls to church and my oldest daughter fought tooth and nail not to go. But she had an option either I could take her or have the police escort her to church. ugg boots cheapest
seetpea
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Re: My 12 year old daughter hates me and is fueled by her father

Sep 20, 2010 12:30 AM
I understand you were fighting a rebelous teenager using a divorce to get what she wants.. But there is a difference between that and a sociapath person.. They are the ones creating the drama and I honestly tried everything known. Don't misunderstan d I'm not saying prayers don't help they do.. But I will be honest I still pray to God to help me through my life everyday with all the drama . Actually ignoring everything concerning my ex help more than anything ... And that even meant not getting upset when he wouldn't let them go to church..
seetpea
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Re: My 12 year old daughter hates me and is fueled by her father

Sep 20, 2010 12:22 AM
Reading your post reminds me alot of mine. In 2003 I filed for divorce due to my now ex husband abusing me. it took me a year to get him to court to make him start paying child support. He tried to get my son to say he wanted to stay 50 /50 but when the judge ask my son what that meant he didn't know. And my ex husband got only fussed at. There was an order of protection in place and he was arressted for violating it and had a firearm on him but he did not charge him with the firearm . the reason for that is his brother work for the city here as a LT . of the police dept. To my children he would accuse me of being with different men even men I worked with. To the point men I worked with wouldn't speak to me. When I was gone taking my daughter to her games he would break in my house and steal personal items left to me by my dead grandparents and dead great grand parents. He would call and see my friends in person and tell them how he would kill me if I didn't stop the divorce. About 6 months after everything was settled I started letting my guard down and that was the wrong thing to do . Thats when he used my 19 yr old daughter against me and told her he would give her the child support money if she would testify against me so he could get cusodity of my son.From age 13 till 19 my son refused (on his own) not to have anything to do with his dad since he had abused him and black his eye and even shot at him with a practice gun that is used in games that shoots pellets and the gun is high power and goggles and equipment is wore during these games but my son didn't have any gear he just shot at him and beat on him all day that day throwing him into the door facing and everything. Now my son is in college and my daughter is picking up after her dad and when she get upset with me she convinces my son to spend more time with his dad. Now he wont see me or talk to me. I have raised him on my own and give him things I really couldn't afford . Bought him a truck paid the insurance and his cell phone. I always attended every sporting event my children was in. My son is ADHD/ADD and my ex uses that to his benefit. He has my son convinced I am trying to keep him out of college when i was the one who put him there help with the money and schlorships and everything. While his dad didn't even buy a shirt much less pay for a meal or gas for him to come home on. I don't know how long or if this will come around and bite my ex husband this time or not but it always has in the past. But I will say this my patience and my nerves and the stress of him is starting to wear me down alot. I know have alot of medical issues. I don't date because no one wan't to deal with what i have too and honestly I do understand that. My ex will go to any extreme he can to make me miserable. He has went to my boss and complained , told lies about me personally.. Even wrote very very ugly things about me on the internet and used my name put my cell number on there. Made accusations that I stole money.. he know tell my son to block me from emailing him , had him to change his address, his dad got him a cell phone with a different number and told him not to give it to me and now I cannot get in touch at all with my son. So yea I know how you feel .. And I have not one idea what to do...My ex husband fuels my children too and they are now both over 18 . in fact one is 24 and the other is 20,
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