my daughter hates me

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please someone help me!!!! i have a 14 13 and 11 year old girls. things are fine between my 2 youngest but my oldest is a different story. i cant tell her anything that she doesn't blow up at me. when that happens i get upset and it goes down hill from there, what should i do please help
Last Post Jan 28, 2012 5:23 AM by: CaraBoo13
maggar
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Re: my daughter hates me

Jan 22, 2012 6:11 AM
I have had an epipany! I have been trying to figure out what has happened to my family? I have been seeing a counselor and he mentioned PVS ( professional victim syndrome). I have been researching this disorder and OMG!! Its my wife!!
Years of thinking I was going crazy! Now I understand! She has always sabotaged my relationship with my daughter. When things were getting a little bit better, it would blow up! She could not let it get better! I always had to be the bad guy! I actually feel better that I know now that there's a name to this and I'm not going nuts!

HERE ARE SOME SIGNS YOU ARE DEALING WITH A PROFESSIONAL VICTIM

1) She never acknowledges when she hurts others. She has exclusive rights to the role of “injured party.” When you call her on her behavior, she provides ample excuses for why she’s not accountable. The excuses she provides assign blame for her actions to someone else, usually the person she’s wronged. It’s always your fault or someone else’s fault, but never, ever is it her fault.


2) The victim must be victimized. If you're not an abusive person, she’ll pull it out of you in order to play the victim script she has in her head. For example, she needles and needles and needles one of your sore spots, until you can’t take it any more and snap at her in defense.

Presto! She just got you to “victimize” her–never mind the previous 2 hours in which she psychologically tormented and bullied you into it. She needs to play innocent victim to someone’s bad guy. It’s the foundation of her identity.

This is a very primitive defense mechanism called projective identification, which, if you’re on the receiving end, is truly awful in that it makes you feel like the crazy person. It’s a self-fulfilling prophesy whereby she believes you’re a “bad guy” and she’s a “victim.” She then behaves or interacts with you in such a way that you change your behavior in response to her actions and become the “bad guy.” A telltale sign is that you feel like you’re being coerced into being someone that you’re not. It’s highly, highly emotionally abusive.

It’s impossible to have a loving relationship of equals with a professional victim. She goes through life feeling slighted and angry, never taking responsibility for her actions or life. Good luck trying to talk to her about this. You’ll meet with extreme defensiveness and more blaming behaviors. Her only identity is that of victim: If she doesn’t believe she’s being victimized, then who is she? Someone who treats other people like crap and who is pissing her life away. It’s a matter of psychological self-preservation versus ego annihilation.

This has been my life with my wife and daughter for about 6 years now. I thought that I was in a bizzaro world! Now ,I understand! Unfortunately it has cause the lose of my family and the daughter I love so much!
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Re: my daughter hates me

Jan 20, 2012 8:24 PM
> Hey Supermom. What a great essay. If I have your permission please may I print it out and give it to my husband ?
> Yes I was in tears after reading this and you areobviously doing a whole lot of stuff right to have the other children doing OK. Yes ones with issues certainly do take up all your time,money, thoughts and energy.
> Give her a HUGE hug from me and yourself. I know she will be OK in life she is a very thoughtful person.
> Take care
> My husband is currently visiting the eldest daughter to try and sort our mess out. I by the name has had enough of her attitude towards the rest of the family.


Hello Hadenough 1,
Sure!!! You may print and show to your husband... I do not mind at all... I just wanted to share some of my victories .... I have shared the defeats in great numbers! (SMH) God is still in the blessing business... If I have not learned anything through this experience, I have learned that God is a GOD of balance... He takes the "unclean" & "cleans"... He "rights" the "wrong"... He takes those things that are meant to "hurt" you and uses them to "help" others.... I am just grateful....... I hope your life will smooth out soon... Lots of prayer and redirecting of your attentions will truly help you to heal... I know this to be true in my case.... Take care... Many Blessing To You!!!!
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Re: my daughter hates me

Jan 20, 2012 8:21 PM
Sure!!! You may print and show to your husband... I do not mind at all... I just wanted to share some of my victories .... I have shared the defeats in great numbers! (SMH) God is still in the blessing business... If I have not learned anything through this experience, I have learned that God is a GOD of balance... He takes the "unclean" & "cleans"... He "rights" the "wrong"... He takes those things that are meant to "hurt" you and uses them to "help" others.... I am just grateful....... :-x I hope your life will smooth out soon... Lots of prayer and redirecting of your attentions will truly help you to heal... I know this to be true in my case.... Take care... Many Blessing To You!!!!
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Re: my daughter hates me

Jan 20, 2012 4:25 PM
Hey Supermom. What a great essay. If I have your permission please may I print it out and give it to my husband ?
Yes I was in tears after reading this and you areobviously doing a whole lot of stuff right to have the other children doing OK. Yes ones with issues certainly do take up all your time,money, thoughts and energy.
Give her a HUGE hug from me and yourself. I know she will be OK in life she is a very thoughtful person.
Take care
My husband is currently visiting the eldest daughter to try and sort our mess out. I by the name has had enough of her attitude towards the rest of the family.
CaraBoo13
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Re: my daughter hates me

Jan 20, 2012 10:05 AM
Thank you for sharing Super Mom and for updating us here on your life! Things sound better and I am so happy for you!!!! God Bless and Stay well!!!
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Re: my daughter hates me

Jan 20, 2012 2:12 AM
Hello Family,
I have not posted in a long while... I have been trying to HEAL & MOVE PAST all that I have endured for the past 10 plus years with my (21) year old!!!!! THANK GOD!!!!! I am in a much better place now... Although the issues with my daughter are presently much the same ... My (21) year old is still not taking her medicine properly for her Bi-Polar and Schizophrenia Disorder. However, I am choosing to focus more on the more positive aspects of my life at this time and space that I am in....
I STILL have a loving husband that is hanging in there with me/us... (3) children/young adults that are soaring in their own personal journeys & lives... My eldest (son/24 years old) is about to graduate from UCF BS in Engineering ... My (daughter/18 years old) is on her way to Florida State University in Tallahassee FL. this year... B.S. Global/International Affairs... My baby, (11 years old) is trucking along in her own speed... She is maintaining her Honor Roll Student status and is a truly well rounded & adjusted little girl... In spite of all that WE as a family have endured at the hands of my daughter (21).
I write to you today to share one of my (18 year old's) essays that she submitted for the college application process... It truly affected me & I hope that you can gain some hope from it as well... I thought that through all that she had witnessed with her elder sister etc... That she would follow in her foot steps... Well.... Just read..... ;0):O

ESSAY: Question- Are there times that you have felt as though you, or others were unfairly treated? What did you do to help the situation. Has anything changed do to your contributions?
ESSAY ANSWER:

There are many times that I feel that my mother was/is unfairly treated and not given the opportunities she deserves. In my early years of elementary school, I often remember times of great hardship and trials involving my older sister and mother. My older sister is three years my senior. There were many times that she would become involved in fights and other negative situations in school and the surrounding community. I remember painfully enduring and watching my mother’s responses to all of the negative choices and decisions made by my older sister throughout her teenage and now adult years. I feel as though my older sister unfairly treated my mother. Due to this unfair treatment, my mother has not been able to have the opportunity to experience basic peace of mind, heart, and spirit. My older sister’s actions, decisions, and choices have detrimentally affected my mother and family.

I vividly remember being in the fourth grade and over hearing a conversation between my mother and stepfather. My older sister, then in middle school, decided not to go to school. Instead, my older sister decided to travel to another state with the next-door neighbor. My mother was inconsolably distraught. She notified the police, searched the neighborhood, notified neighbors, family, and friends in an attempt to locate my older sister. By the end of the day, my mother was emotionally and physically exhausted. My mother did not deserve this treatment. Because of all of the unfair and negative treatment and experiences, my mother now feels as though she cannot go to work without fearing the worst is occurring in her absence. It is extremely unfair that my mother has experienced and endured such treatment, emotional stress, and heartache.
The cause of the unfair treatment is due to my sister’s inability to make sound decisions and choices. My sister’s selfish behavior and poor decision making has caused much pain and discontentment for my mother and family. My sister’s unfair treatment of my mother has detrimentally altered our relationship forever.
Over the years, I have tried in many ways to correct the harm and pain caused by my sister’s unfair treatment of my mother. I truly desired to erase some of my mother’s pain by being the daughter that she could trust and depend. Throughout my academic career, I have worked truly hard to achieve and maintain the highest scores possible. I have been an extremely studious student, dedicated community service participant, honest and trust worthy person, and a loving and dependable daughter. I made a conscious decision to do all that I could do to bring as much joy, trust, and peace back into our home.
I cannot definitively say that my actions have altered, or improved the situation for my mother. My sister’s actions and decision-making processes are still the same. However, I know that I have done all that I could do to make my mother smile from day-to-day. I can only hope that through my positive interactions, academic/personal achievements, and growth my mother is now able to experience some peace of mind in knowing that I truly love, respect, and care for her dearly.

I WAS SPEECHLESS.... I CRIED LIKE A 2-YEAR OLD BABY AFTER READING THIS!!!YOU NEVER KNOW HOW THINGS WILL AFFECT THOSE THAT ARE WATCHING THE MADNESS UNFOLD... I THOUGHT THAT I HAD "PROTECTED" HER/THEM FROM THE FOOLISHNESS... I GUESS NO MATTER HOW MUCH "WE" PRETEND THAT THE OTHER CHILDREN DO NOT KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON... IT DOES NOT CHANGE THE FACT THAT THEY TRULY DO KNOW!!! AT TIMES, THEY ACTUALLY KNOW MORE THAN WE ABOUT THE INNER WORKINGS OF THE HOME! JUST REMEMBER TO PAY VERY CLOSE ATTENTION TO THE "INNOCENT BI-STANDERS" AS YOU DEAL WITH THE "ISSUES" AT HAND! THE "INNOCENT ONES" ARE WATCHING, LISTENING, & TAKING NOTES.... ?:| JUST A LITTLE FOOD FOR THOUGHT!!! THANKS FOR ALLOWING ME TO SHARE THIS WITH YOU!
CaraBoo13
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Re: my daughter hates me

Jan 18, 2012 12:45 PM
If you offer money that is a different matter but you losing it or rolling it up and smoking it or giving it to the homeless ( they certainly would respect you and it more

I FRIGGEN LOVE IT!!!! AM APPLAUDING HADENOUGH!!!! HAHAHAHA But you are right!!!!
And yes Listen to hadenough stop catering if you are and live your life for what makes you happy!!! No one else is changing their ways for you YOU DO THE SAME!!!!!!
;) Love you Peeps Please Take Care of you!! YOU!! YOU!!!!!!

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Re: my daughter hates me

Jan 18, 2012 12:11 PM
Welcome Rachel's mom and tikrrm
Yes I think Rachels mom is just getting the late teenage attitude. Where she hasn't been expsoed to the ' i know everything' stage until she has gone to college. That still give no justification for the rudeness/disrespect. I can imagine teling her how you feel wil get the eye roll and even more attitude. However, then you have made it clear to her how you feel. Once that is done my suggestion is do not jump to her whims and requests. try not to respond to her attitude and go on you rway doing what YOU want or need. I bet you hae changed all your activities and normal things to cater for her cominghome. Well DON"T continue on with how you want to live and get her tofit in. If not then continue to do and eat ( yes I bet that has changed as well- you are preparing all the things she likes) she wont die from having to eat what you have prepared or going along with things you are doing.
Tikrrm. When I read your letter the only thing that jumped out at me was STOP!!! if the husband finds it funny suggest he do it, they both see you runnning around and getting worried she wont get in to college anywhere. Now is that your problem? NO it is hers. Leave all the paper work on a table undone, Get on and do things you want to do and if they ask for help be a little busy right then. Re the money where do these kids get off thinking that what is yours is theirs?? If you offer money that is a different matter but you losing it or rolling it up and smoking it or giving it to the homeless ( they certainly would respect you and it more) is NONE of her business. STOP enabling her to treat you like this. She wants to go to college then she has to do something.
Good luck to you both and PLEASE look after yourselves.
CaraBoo13
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Re: my daughter hates me

Jan 18, 2012 5:53 AM
TIKRRN
You may not yet be in as bad as shape you think. Here is my suggestion to you and I hope it helps but I'm sure others on here will chime in also. First of all there is no law stating we owe our children a college education. Even tho it is unfortunately a necessity today it is not your responsibilty. And where is she applying herself? Thats what scholarships, grants and loan are for. You owe her nothing and i would make that clear to her. And seriously it is none of her damn business you lost your money on 9-11 My husband lost most of his pension 3x since 9-11 and we were being caustious and still got screwed. The world nor you owe your daughter a living and she needs to understand that. I understand the screaming matches and saying things we later regret. Been there. But then I took the advice my father told me SILENCE IS GOLDEN. Because if you dont give them ammunition they cant fight. Also it keeps them wondering where you are coming from and what you are thinking! You still are mother and as long as she is under your roof she needs to respect you. I would tell her she needs to look into student loans and any scholarships that may be available. If she takes a temper tantrum I would say clearly you arent adullt enough to go to college. Maybe you need to go to local college for a year until you decide to grow up. Tell her" welcome to the real wolrd." Nothing is guaranteed in life and is this how she will act when she has a job and is promised a raise and the boss says sorry business has been bad and we are cutting pays and staff. Also tell your husband is this is not a joke and his laughing must cease. He must stand with you or this could eventually come between you. You and he must be a solid team! Remember you are the parents> And you have another child who is watching how you handle this! So take a deep breath step back regroup and stick to your guns!!!! I think you will find eventually she will either get a clue or she will only hurt herself and thats not your fault YOU OWE HER NOTHING but 3 squares a roof over head and water and heat! Hang tough it isnt so hard once you have your fill of their BS and disrespect!!! WE were not put on this earth to be held captive by love for our children!! Good Luck and Please keep us posted here! It really does help to vent here!!!!

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Re: my daughter hates me

Jan 18, 2012 5:35 AM
WELCOME RACHELS MOM AND TIKRRN
You have found a great place to come and share and vent and hopefully take away some peace of mind and some helpful advice from those of us who have gone thru or are going thru the same Crap!
To Rachels Mom I think in your daughters case sounds like she is just in with THE IN CROWD right now. SHe is going thru the phase where they think they are adults and know it all and they are smarter then us because they are in college. My advice to you is give her the cold shoulder and let her know Look I am still your mother and It is because of me and you r father you have reached this point in your life. Let her know calmy that you are still the bigger adults and disrespect and attitude will not be tolerated. Now if you get a lash back on that and you are paying for her education then I would tell her since she now thinks she has all the answers then Good luck with that and you feel she no longer needs your financial assistance sinc she is now so Damn Worldy! I know how you feel. I feel betrayed my daughter and she has no excuse since she will vbe turning 39 in April and should have gotten lifes clues many years ago. I am now experiencing with her the things I never did when she should have showed these traits. MY daughter has no excuse! And I dont have the hope of her ever growing out of it or it being a phase. But stand strong and do not allow her to bully you. State your peace and then hold tight and dont budge. It will eventually make or break her.

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Re: my daughter hates me

Jan 17, 2012 8:13 PM
Hi all. I am new here. I need a place where i can talk to people who understand. I have an 18 year old daughter who is still a senior in high school. We are in the thick of college and applying for scholarships (or should I say that I am). She is mad because her father and I lost the majority of her college fund when the markets crashed after 9/11. Yes, I had all my eggs in one basket...lesson learned. I can't get her to do anything to help get ready to pay for college. She is rude and disrespectful. When I ask her to do ANYTHING I get nothing but attitude. I am under significant stress and her attitude usually sparks a shouting match between her and I. My husband sits around and laughs and usually sides with her. I have always been the disciplinarian. I am sick of all the fighting and feel like running away or crying. I do get so mad at the disrespect that I yell and say things that I know I shouldn't, but they just come out.... i don't know how to stop this pattern and I get no help from the husband. The arguing has now started to affect my younger son and making life unbearable for all.....any advice? I know the arguing has to stop, but all of my buttons have been pushed and there is no time to get them back in line before she starts again.
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Re: my daughter hates me

Jan 17, 2012 5:37 PM
My daughter is 20 and in college. She's doing great academically, but (as she was here for long break at Xmas) has become a totally different person from when she was in HS. She never went through that period where she seemed to hate me (and her Dad) - but now, it's like there's this huge black cloud around her - she hates us, can't bear us, and I feel so USED! Will she come back? Will we ever have good realationship again? I feel like I just gave my whole life to someone who doesn't care one bit. How can I get out of this? I grieve for the daughter I seem to have lost.
CaraBoo13
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Re: my daughter hates me

Jan 17, 2012 2:15 PM
Hello My Peeps :^O
I am thinking of each of you today and just trying to get thru the anger issues I am experiencing the past few days! I am better. I am happy to know I have the support of all of you here! Each one of you give me strength . SOOOO I just wanted to say HEY and give a shout out to you all and Let you know you were all on my mind today!!!!!
Hang Tough My friends!
Love you All
CaraBoo

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maggar
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Re: my daughter hates me

Jan 17, 2012 3:32 AM
Thanks careboo13.

I will get threw this. Hopefully as she matures she will see the light of day. I'm not holding my breath, I just hope.
CaraBoo13
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Re: my daughter hates me

Jan 16, 2012 2:46 PM
If it makes you feel any better Maggar My husband too was and is an excellent father! All the kids always came to our home because we were the only parents married! ALL her friends were from broken homes. Plus we were the youngest ones since we had our daughter at 19 yrs old. All her friends wished we were their parents. So it doesnt matter to these kids! We all were too damn good!!! But I am so happy coming here helps you. It makes me feel good to know Im helping someone also! HANG TOUGH MY FRIEND!!!!!! :8}

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