please someone help me!!!! i have a 14 13 and 11 year old girls. things are fine between my 2 youngest but my oldest is a different story. i cant tell her anything that she doesn't blow up at me. when that happens i get upset and it goes down hill from there, what should i do please help
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AVR1962
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Oct 7, 2010 10:44 PM
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Brittsmom, one indication that possibly words have been out in your daughter's head is when she starts saying things that are not true or never happened. It's very common in divorce situations. Look up parental alienation. I'm not saying this is happening but it does happen. When my ex came back into my girls' lives he told them all sorts of lies to make me look bad and him look like the one that had to leave for his own sanity when actually he was having an affair and did not want to admit that he left his family to be with someone else espcially since they broke up a short time after the divorce. The kids would come to me and ask me if this or that happened, or if I said this or that. It was amazing what lies he was trying to fill their heads with. I did try to talk to him and it only made it worse. Good thing was the kids caught him in his own lies. Old habits die hard and he was unfaithful to his second wife so they saw. However, I am not sure I was able to dispell everything and any hint that's left behind places doubt. Is there anyway you and speak to your ex about the tardy days? I am assuming he has no custody rights? If you take her back against her will and she is angry already it could make things worse for the two of you but I would be concerned as to why she can't talk and why she hads been tardy for school and I think I'd be trying to find out your rights. Good luck!
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OKIE IN OK
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Oct 7, 2010 1:38 PM
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BRITTSMOM......I don't know what your truancy laws are, but in our state if a child is 16 and is truant from school they will face the consequences, such as community service or fines. The state also considers the parents liable until the child is age 18 or has graduated. That alone is reason to have your child at home where you can be assured she is attending school since you are the custodial parent. I know you want to go get her and protect her. I understand that completely. That is a mother's love. But, I haven't done such a hot job with mine, but I told her that she can find her biological parents and be with them after age 18 when she is hopefully mature enough to deal with their crap and the disappointment she will face, but until then as long as I have a say......the answer is no. They are just very curious about their parents they haven't been around. One day though.....probably not today.....but one day she will realize who has been there for her and who she can count on. Good luck and keep us posted......
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Oct 7, 2010 12:10 PM
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AVR1962...Thank you for your response...It's been three months sense she has moved in with them...but she still doesn't want to come back. To top it off...I called her school today and found out that she has served 5 days of detention due to tardies. Two more and she will be receiving another 5 days.. past that she will be suspended. When I talk to her though, she tells me that everything is great and no problems. The last time I spoke to her on the phone (about a month ago) she seamed to have had a hard time talking to me (her dad and step mom were present) and not being able to answer my simple questions such as "what did you and your friends do this weekend?", "have you been skating?" Our relationship has gotten so much worse lately...she tells me now "I just can't talk to you" when she use to talk to me all the time. She also told me that I was not a caring mother because I wouldn't allow her to make her own decisions and wanted to see her fail (which by the way I HAVE NEVER SAID). I wonder if someone is putting this into her head? I am so confused and think I need to step in and bring her back against her will. (I have had full custody)
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AVR1962
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Oct 7, 2010 11:22 AM
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Brittsmom.....I had 2 daughters with my first husband,he left when they were 1 & 6, also didn't pay child support and very absent from their lives. When he came back into their lives they too also wanted his love, attention and approval and like your daughter had been abandoned and felt rejected. My oldest moved in with her father and stepmom when she was 17, a senior in highschool, this is in a different state. It was about 3 months and she was on the phone begging me to come home. Their lifestyle, their rules, and lack of her own friends in the comfortable atmosphere she knew were too much for her. Be patient, hugs to you, I understand what you are going thru!!
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OKIE IN OK
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Oct 7, 2010 8:54 AM
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TULSAC.......You are in my thoughts and prayers. I can't believe the cruelty of some children. They don't deserve decent parents and it will bite them in the butt. They have children that are observing their treatment of you and will one day treat them in the same manner. it is the law of the harvest....you reap what you sow! Hang in there! And thanks to everyone on this site that share in the pain that no parent should feel. It helps me to cope when I see that there are others going through. One thing we MUST not forget are the "good" children that do love and respect us. We need to focus on them even more than we focus on the bad seed. It is not fair to allow the hateful ones to absorb our emotions and time. (I AM MAINLY TALKING TO ME!!)
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OKIE IN OK
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Oct 7, 2010 8:43 AM
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AVR1962....THANK YOU FOR YOUR ADVICE. I SHALL DO THAT IN THE FUTURE.sHE SAT OUTSIDE ALL DAY YESTERDAY AND WASN'T ANY WORSE FOR IT. WE DID SIT HER DOWN LAST NIGHT AND ASKED WHAT THEIR PLANS ARE AND THAT THEY NEED TO GET IT TOGETHER OR CALL IT QUITS. HER HUSBAND IS SUCH A JERK HE WON'T EVEN FACE US AT ALL ANYMORE. HE LIVES WITH HIS MOTHER AND SHE HATES MY DAUGHTER AND HAS FORBIDDEN HER TO SIT FOOT ON THEIR PROPERTY AND I AM CONSIDERING DOING THE SAME WITH HIM. WE HAVE OFFERRED AND TRIED TO HELP THEM AND THEY DROP KICK IT BACK, SO WHAT ELSE ARE WE TO DO? TO OFFER ANYMORE IS AN INVITATION TO EMPOWER THEM TO HURT AND SNEER AT US. THEY SAY THEY ARE GOING TO "DATE" PER HIS MOM'S SUGGESTION,YET HE RUNS AROUND WITH HIS FRIEND AND RARELY COMES TO SEE HER OR TALKS TO HER. WE ARE FED UP TO THE MAX AND I REALLY WISH SHE WOULD MOVE OUT AT THIS POINT!!!
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Oct 7, 2010 6:32 AM
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Hello! I am new to blogging, but this looks like a great way to reach out to others! My daughter is 16 years old. Her father and I divorced when she was 3. Her father didn't pay child support (and I did not enforce it) and was not a part of her life...when I asked him for financial help with her, he would tell me that he had other bills to pay. So I did the best I could with raising her. Lets fast forward now...her father has remarried and just within the past few years has started sending her birthday cards and acknowledging her. She talks to her step-mom constantly. She has always wanted to be in her fathers life, she always felt rejected by him. But in her eyes, he hung the moon regardless. Even with his drug history! She use to talk to me all the time regarding problems and I always thought we had a good relationship until I gave her the option of moving in with her dad. She jumped on it...it hurt me to know that it thrilled her so much. She moved in with them three months ago. Just within that short time, she never calls me anymore and when I do finally get in contact with her, she tells me that we just argue all the time and she can't talk to me. Let me add: before she moved in with them, she had came to me saying that she changed her mind and wanted to stay because of their lifestyle and they wouldn't be able to financially support her needs, then she changed her mind and wanted to stay with them once she got there. They live with her step-moms aunt. My daughter started school in a different school than I was originally told. I asked her if she had taken her drivers test yet and she informed me that her dad and step-mom didn't have the gas money to take her. I feel that her attitude has changed drastically sense she moved down there and that the relationship I had with her is disappearing. I don't know what to do. Part of me wants to "woman up" and just bring her back even though she doesn't want to come back. Please help!
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AVR1962
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Oct 6, 2010 11:08 PM
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Oakie in OK.......if your daughter feel it is up to her to go to class, then she also needs to realize it is up to her to support herself and find a home for themselves. Don't allow her to make you late for work. Tell her that you are leaving and when and if she needs a ride she needs to be ready by this time. Having adult children living at home with their spouses and/or children adds that much more tension in the household. I know you feel an obligation to help them but they really need to help themselves. I would ask them whaty the goals were in order for them to have a place of their own and hold them to that, maybe set a date that you would like to see them in their own home.
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Oct 6, 2010 11:02 PM
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Tulasc......my stepson wrote his dad and I an email something much like the one you posted from your daughter's boyfriend/husband. Have you or your husband responded? My husband told his sons who is now 27 that he himself went thru a time when he thought he knew everything and he and his parents were not on the best of terms, however, husband told stepson that one thing was different and that was the lack of respect that he demonstrated towards us. He (husband) then told him that he felt that he (stepson) had alot of issues to work thru and alot of maturing to do yet. We have not contacted him and he has not contacted us. Personally, I think your daughter's boyfriend went past proper boundaries. The email he sent was not only hateful but very threatening. I would stay away. Karma will get them, it always does. They will have to turn and make an about face. Don't lower yourself to their level and become a part of this. I am afraid any response you make will not be heard as they don't want to hear what you have to say.
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Oct 6, 2010 7:31 PM
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I sat and wrote a letter to my daughter and her husband. I haven't sent it, I decided to come on here and see what you all had to say first. I know they don't care about me and would probably not even a letter if I send it. I think we probably should just give up and go on. I just wish my daughter would talk civil to me and want to work things out, she just wants to run from things, be bitter, hateful and mad. Funny thing is, she's been mad for 5 years. Now that they are doing ok, she doesn't need any money she says I'm no longer beneficial to their family. She doesn't care how much that hurts. If she thinks slinging insults will make her feel better she is dead wrong. If you believe in prayer I think its the only recourse, we don't have the power to change these hateful daughters.
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Oct 6, 2010 4:47 PM
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My friends and brother have told me time and time again..."Walk away. Don't answer the phone, don't open the door, don't respond to her in any way until she comes crawling back and delivers the respect you deserve as her parents on a silver platter." I haven't listened. Until it was forced on me in this manner....I still thought I could "fix" it. That with time, she would mature. That with my patience, she would come around. That with me biting my tongue, she would appreciate it. But NO. Nothing I do is good enough. My love isn't wanted. My presence isn't wanted. Yet, somehow my money was always good enough. I'm so over it. She's a woman now. I did my job raising her to 18 healthy, beautiful, well groomed, well taken care of, now she has to live with her decisions. I pray Karma kicks her butt.....Good grief....I don't know if I'm mad as heck or hurt so bad...or both!
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Thank you all for your understanding words of wisdom....and for caring. It feels so weird to have someone care about me that is not just my husband and son. Especially since my whole family could not care less about our pain with our daughter. The most horrific thing happened yesterday. Remember a couple of days ago when I wrote about how we weren't invited to my own grandson's birthday party? Well, I received an email from my son in law and it made me physically sick. I'm posting it here so you all can just see how cruel your own daughters can be. (as if y'all didn't already know...sad joke) "(my husbands name), (my name), and (sons name), I didn't think I ever needed to say this, but obviously I do. None of you are welcome at our house, ever. The fact that you were not invited to the party should have been clear enough. (daughters name) nor I can believe that you had the nerve to drive over here, but to get out of the car and walk in our backyard was completely uncalled for. Consider this a written warning, if any of you (husbands name), (my name), or(sons name) ever steps foot on my property again without being invited, (daughters name) and I will have you arrested for trespassing. Is it not obvious enough to you that (my daughters name) nor I like any of you, and we do not want to see you, talk to you, or hear about you. Do not reply to this message, I won't read it. There is no excuse and there is nothing that you have to say that I care to hear. (son in laws name) I absolutely despise this so called man now. I had plenty of reasons before to loathe him, but I've always kept my cool and didn't rock the boat. Now this! And to know my own daughter couldn't "woman up" and tell us this herself makes me sick! That she can even be this cruel.....its just.....so.....painful, unnerving, unbelievable. I think I'm still in shock.
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OKIE IN OK
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Oct 6, 2010 10:09 AM
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I hate today!!! She has been staying with us this week because her sorry excuse for a husband will not get them a home. He is staying with his mom and she asked to stay with us. I take her to school on my way to work. She has not been attending much lately, and I was informed that there is nothing I can do about it, since she is "married". I waited until I was almost late for work for her to come out of the bathroom. She didn't and I feel that is redeness and disrespect n her part to make me late, and I might aded she had no remorse about it. I made her go sit on the back porch and locked her out. Now I am feeling guilty, but I am so sick of all this madness. Sometimes all i want is for her to just hold me close and say one sincere I Love you. Is that too much for a Mom to ask?
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Oct 5, 2010 10:38 PM
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Oakie in Ok makes a great statement at the end of her last reply that we all could say to ourselves every day......."I will not blame myself today, " very powerful!
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OKIE IN OK
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Oct 5, 2010 3:12 PM
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I am a good mom. I adopted her when she was 11 and have loved her like my own biological children. I have given her my time and energy to attend all the football games and school functions. I have hauled her and her friends around to the mall, skating rink, and other places and even paid their way if they couldn't afford it. We have taken her on vacations and sent her to concerts. even above all the material things, we have given her a spiritual and moral atmosphere to grow up in, Whether she admits it or not I AM A GOOD MOM. My two grown children weighed in on this and affirms this. I will not blame myself today.
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