Hey My peeps!!! My god we all have such BItC***S in our lies LOL!!! And Jenny I know the panic attacks!!! I think that is the stage where I am at. I have been so strong the last 8 months well not reALLY I HAD THE HAIR FALLING OUT STAGE THRU THE SUMMER AND THE LIVING IN THE BATHROOM ! But I statrted a week ago with severe dizziness! I cant get warm and I feel like I weigh 1000 pounds> I am sure it is not stress and BS. Im fighting it all the way went to Dr yesterday and had a cardifram and I am getting an Mri tomorrow night to be sure I am not having a ANOTHER stroke! IM angrier then ever right now that I have to suffer this crap! I still have no problem standing my ground and IM MAD AT ME for allowing this to keep ruling my thoughts. AGAIN I still have no desire to speak to her or even see her! And Jenny OMG I hear you. My daughter always said my first stroke was Drama! My blindness was Drama! What is wrong with these Morons??? And Yes Hadenough Most of us here are talking about grown WOMEN! ALTHOUGH how pathetic that it sounds as if we are talking about TEENS!!!! HELLO Who are the immature ones here??? They do all sound like teens. The things they have done to us sound like the actions of a 15 ,16.17 , and 18 yr old!!!! They all need an azz whipping to straighten them out! WHEW OK u all can see im having a moment hahaha not a meltdown just a damn fleeting moment!!!!! THANKS for listening!!!!!!!

Hi, I guess it's tough being parents to teens especially when they expect too much from you. I do agree that silence can be a powerful tool instead of confronting your child or shouting back at them, it only causes more tension. Although it's also best to be able to talk to them regarding what bothers them that made them lash out at you, assure them that you will listen to what they have to say and do not interrupt. From there, you will begin to understand their reasons and perhaps you can also share your fears as parents, I'm sure they'll appreciate your honesty. Proper communication is also as important even if we consider to be silent about the issues at hand.
All parents should be prepared with the tools as they expect their kids to develop into teens. Setting ground rules and possible courses of action is a good idea as our kids enter the challenging phase of adolescence. We can only hope for the best and pray for each other. We'll make it through, you'll see.

Well i heard last night that apparently I have a granddaughter. They contacted my husband and had a long chat to him all about it and he was obviousy excited about it. but I found out via my son. I didn't ask any questions but I know there will be a big issue that he has to sort out not me.We were both meant to go to the other daughters yesterday. I went, he was too busy, we have again been invited to dinner there tonight. I am going, it is up to him. Yes it is about a 3hr drive round trip. The excuse, he is too busy . I know he is planning a trip to fly to see the other daughter. That will take $ and about 4 days. What am I going to say, nothing!!! he will have to explain it to others not me and get himself to the airport.
It is such a powerful feeling to know that I can make my own decisions and that they have to come to me to tell me what they are doing and have to ask me to fit in with them. Then that gives me the chance to decide what I want to do.
Oh the freedom that silence gives you.
CarrBoo13 I can understand but I have no intention of leaving her to read any diary. I am sure they will just say it was your twisted version of events. But if writing makes you feel better by all means keep doing it. Just don't think she will give a dime for it now or ever.
Stay strong and love yourself. You sound a really great person.

Ahhh yes thank god for diaries!!! AS I have said on here before I have 8 years of my journals and they saved me from losing my mind when this all went down! I combed thru them rereading all the abuse and I said to myself NO I did not imagine this and I just couldnt find anything horrible in there that My husband or I did to deserve what we were being dealt from her and Her miserable parasite of a husband! In fact her first of year marriage We saw them a total of 40 hours for the year! They lived 8 miles from us. And I am the one who mainly saw my daughter most of that time in the salon when she cut or colored my hair. My husband saw her 2 times in that entire year. And My daughter thinks that was just fine. In the mean time they are at his parents several times a week having dinner. I stumbled over a picture the other day from 2003. It was Her birthday and I realized that was the last birthday I was allowed to celebrate with her. The engagement ring went on her finger that year and every birthday after that was at his parents house and we were not included, nor wanted. So THE DIARY IS YOUR SANITY!!!! But coming here aides in my peace and sanity also! I dont care what my daughter thinks because as Jenny said they will twist it anyway. Which is why Silence is still golden. And eventually when they only have the old words to twist they will run out of excuses. But rest assured they will conjur up some new BS. Its a no win situation until a bell goes off in their heads! I dont hold any hope for my daughter because she has too much bad influence in her life Daily. Over 8 years I watched this family destroy so many other families and Win so Im 99% sure they have won here also. But I blame my daughter because she was raised better but I guess if she wants to keep that parasite she is married to she will sacrifice her family. her loss Not ours all we lost was the Pain of not seeing her on holidays of not being acknowledged on mothers day and fathers day, of never receiving invites to anything and of everything always being a big secret. We no longer have to feel like an ANNOYING OBLIGATION in her life. And that works fine for us! Time truly does heal all wounds and I am much better now then even a month ago! Every day really does get easier. Life does go on with out them. Hang tough My Friends And Hang here!! It helps TONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Take care Hadenough and thanks for sharing - please try if you can to get your husband on your side. If my daughter had been more loving, and she and my ex hadn't ganged up on me, probably I'd be still married to him.

As I think Watdoido will testify, leaving gives them more ammunition to use against you.

Maggar - loved your 'monkey bar' advice - it's so true - when you stop banging your head against the wall, the headache disappears!

Caraboo and Pixie - thanks for sharing your advice. It's so sad that so many are going through this heartache, but it is good to share our hurt with those that understand.

I feel your pain, my son hates me too. It is funny he used to love Mommy. Now a year after divorce I cant do anything right. My ex was abusive to everyone in the house but now he is the greatest. It really hurts!!

Pixie!
LOVE YOU GIRLFRIEND! We shall over come and PREVAIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WEll I come bearing some comforting info! LOL I wentr to my dentist today who has been our dentist for 30 years so he knows my daughter, although he has not been her dentist for over 10 yrs he still knows a lot of my life. He of course asked how she is and m yhusband and I were telling him. He said I know its hard but you know what You just let it be. He is going thru this right now with 2 daughters! He said and he has found SILENCE IS GOLDEN! He said he has heard so much of this crap from parents and he agreed with me. Todays kids think the world owes them a living and if they arent getting it they are beating up every one in their paths! They all have the mentality of those kids on Occupy wall street. They want it all trey want it now, they dont want to earn anything (including respect) and if anyone stands in their way they will mow you down no matter who \you are!!!! Because they have no respect no morals no values no goals! He also said that at 38 my daughter along with most kids dont act it! They act 22! He told me to just continue to stand my ground. His 22 yr old out of the blue sends him text just saying Hi he said he said Hi back and heard no more!!! They are all nuts!!!!