my daughter hates me

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please someone help me!!!! i have a 14 13 and 11 year old girls. things are fine between my 2 youngest but my oldest is a different story. i cant tell her anything that she doesn't blow up at me. when that happens i get upset and it goes down hill from there, what should i do please help
Last Post Jan 28, 2012 5:23 AM by: CaraBoo13
maggar
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Re: my daughter hates me

Jan 10, 2012 12:45 PM
"I would just totally not discuss her with him at all. Until he sees the light I say SILENCE IS GOLDEN"

Caraboo, So true! That's what I am doing right now! I don't ask about my daughter to my wife at all even though I know she speaks to her everyday.
My daughter will think I am just weak and puddy in her hands if I try to contact her since I told her she was not my daughter anymore!
As much as it kills me, I WON'T !!!! It does get easier everyday though.
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Jan 10, 2012 4:26 AM
LOL Maggar So true!!!!!
maggar
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Re: my daughter hates me

Jan 9, 2012 2:45 PM
Life is like being on monkey bars: You eventually have to let go to move forward!
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Jan 9, 2012 1:07 PM
Dear hadenough!
Welcome my friend! My heart bleeds for you. It sounds like your daughter has some major issues and you are the whipping post!!! I feel bad that your husband is not supporting you. That makes things so more difficult! But stick to your guns sister!!!! You are not the punching bag, not the guilty one! Clearly you have 2 other children who have no issues with you now that they have grown up and got a clue!
As for you husband he needs a slap! He knows the truth and he should be backing you. Lets hope he wakes up! If not then he is on his own where she is concerned and I would not budge. What I wouldnt dfo is send any messages what so ever to your daughter thru your husband. I would just totally not discuss her with him at all. Until he sees the light I say SILENCE IS GOLDEN> Plus you reALLY DONT KNOW HOW IT GETS TWISTED FROM ONE MOUTH TO ANOTHER! Please keep us posted here and we all try to give comfort and ADVICE SO WE CAN ALL HEAL! Please know you have found a great place to come and vent!!!!! Hang tough My friend!!! XOXOX
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Jan 9, 2012 12:28 PM
Dear Carboo and Jennym. I understand what you are saying. I too am STRUGGLING at the moment. I have 3 chn all now adults and all in good careers or on their way to good careers. We have moved manytimes because of my husbands career, often giving up my promising career to take care of the chn and husband and as he says without me giving up my life ( I worked fulltime for the last 15yrs to help provide them with all the things they needed- violin/viola lessons and clarinet, sports including buying the eldest a horse along with horse riding lessons.etc etc) We have given to all the chn as needed $10,000+ for the eldest to help her into her first house, etc et, helped each of them move often interstate. The eldest one has been EXCEPTIONALLY difficult sincee about the age of 13. The next daughter and I have sorted out our problems and it seemas as if most of them have been casued by the eldest since about the age of 13. I have been acused of being bipolar, have mental issue.she being scared of me etc etc. These accusations have not only been among her friends but mine as well and she has written to the health dept, social welfare dept, and my previous employer these allegations. When our 2nd daughter was having her first baby she told her that I was unfit to have any contact with the grandchild and that I had been taken for child abuse. Of course this casued all sorts of problems. After the 2nd daughter and I sorted the problem out I now have a wonderful relation ship with her and the 2 grandchildren. I look after both of them when needed and she has no issues. However the eldest daughter is due to have a child and I was so happy. I travelled at great expense interstate to see her and she changed arrangements etc. She was really weird while I was there then when I got home I sent her material and other baby item with her not responding to sms, e-mails or letters. I asked my husband to ask her what was wrong. She sent him and e-mail sayng she was scared of me , that I had mental issues and she doesn't want me around when the baby is due. She is now a professional but I have helped her through, a violent relatinship, drugs, marriage problems, and we wont go into all the other things. Anyway I am devestated and she is trying to drive a wedge between my husband and I and at the moment is being successful. He cannot see she has done anything wrong. ( Like when he used to be away working all the time and I would tell him she had lied to me he didn't believe me until she did it to him). He intends to spend time and money to visit her after the baby is born. I have asked that if he goes he does not mention me in any shape or form except to say that I never want to speak to her again. She sent her dad a merry christmas sms but no mention of me. I refused to buy her a christmas present hence she didn't get anything ( a first time ever that has happened and if I don't buy and wrap and get husband to sign cards then present giving doesn't happen).
Mind you this is not the first time she has done this to me but stupid me I get up, forgive, give her a hug, brush myself off and move on. This time I can't as I am hurting too mcuh and the husband seems to be blaming me for it. HELP.
I have walked out on my husband as all I want him to do is support me and ring her up and ask her where she gets all this BS from and to stop it. As he said to me she would n't have the career she has if it wasn't for me. I give up and am ready to leave the husband as well. The 2nd daughter has had nothing to do with her eldest sister for so long because of the things she has coped but the eldest used to keep saying to me I just want to say sorry I have tried to ring her but she keeps rejecting me . I didn't understand why until now. The brother is also very hurt and confused as his sister only contacts him when she wants something or to find out about her niece and nephew or me. The husband just doesn't get it and keeps saying she will be back. Do I want her back. No way I can't go through this hurt, devestation, destroy confidence/self again. NEVER. If my friends treated me this way I they wouldn't be my friends . So sad
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Jan 9, 2012 4:55 AM
Jenny thanks for sharing your turmoil! And again It is nice to know others feel our pain and understand it! And I know the feeling of waking in the middle of the night and rehashing the BS. I am still in the Hating stage . My husband is just plain done. He said he cannot forgive her for what she has dont to me and as for her husband We are totally done. We detest him and his famiky so much that they could all disappear and we wouldnt give a damn. I push to stay strong because like you say I think if I had another stroke they would all bask in it right along with my daughter. If she gave an ounce of caring she wouldnt have treated me like she has for the last years actually this April will be 9 years of total disrespect and verbal abuse except we havent spoken since last May and Yes IN TEXT MESSAGES! That is just sick!!! My daughter refused to face me also when I said this is ridiculous. Anyway Thank you once again for sharing. Thank god we all have each other. AND SHAME ON THESE KIDS TO DO THIS TO THE ONLY PEOPL IN THEIR LIVES WHO WOULD LAY THEIR LIFE DOWN FOR THEM> EVEN THO NOT A ONE OF THEM WOULD DO THE SAME> Honestly at this point in time right now I couldnt lay my life down for her. She has destroyed that bond I believe forever. :(
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Jan 8, 2012 11:05 PM
I've just been reading some of your postings! I hope to read more later when I can.

Words fail me.... honestly, my heart goes out to you all.

xxxx
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Jan 8, 2012 9:52 PM
CaraBoo 'Thanks' for your warm welcome. Maggar, hold off on the 'blame' – no one deserves being treated the way you are being.

CaraBoo is so right, it is like a bereavement and there is a process that this takes. Initially, it's shock, 'what the heck have I done to deserve this treatment?' Then we get angry, and I think this anger can help us get through. Eventually we start to see 'glimpses' of the bigger picture, we start connecting the dots! It becomes a revelation!

Like Cara, my daughter is older, she's 35 this year. Technically I too lost my daughter when she was 15! I can pin point the day. She had a friend who always argued with her mother, and this friend left home and lived in the YMCA for a year! All Mothers then became public enemy number 1! She surrounded herself with friends who had family issues. It was all negative stuff.

She went to college, but didn't take it seriously. She literally had 6 cars which all died of a million dents! Every time she went out, I imagined it was the last time I would see her alive! I couldn't stand the way she and her father ganged up on me, I couldn't do a thing right, my being colour-blind even became a tool for them to put me down. I tried to install some discipline but when there is no support it appeared 'I was always at fault' it's so hard.

In 22 years of marriage I had never seen any emotion in her father, the only emotion he ever showed was anger. (This is where Narcissism fits in so well). When she was 19 I couldn't stand it any more and so I left. I wasn't needed in the home, except to do their housekeeping, laundry etc.

When she was 23 I married a great guy!

Some of the last words we texted were last August. The argument was all done in text, she wouldn't meet up with me, I asked her what had I ever done for her to hate me so? She came came back so fast saying that I had left her when she was 17! (she was in fact 19 - almost 20!)

Fast-tracking, when she was about 23 she got in with a guy that had been in prison lots of times for violence (officially it's something like 29 times for 34 'offences against the person') – in all I think he served about 9 years! I had never experienced anyone like him and was way out of my depth. She had my granddaughter, Lisa, who I love to bits. This guy two timed her when she was pregnant... it was all too ugly for words.

This guy never support Lisa financially, when he did he would throw the money first on the floor so my daughter had to kneel before him to pick it up. She worried me sick saying that she would be found dead in a ditch one day! But she did have a wake up call when the baby was born, she got herself a degree in quantity surveying, landed a well paid job, and she managed (with help from us and Lisa's paternal grandparents) to get herself mortgage.

We supported her through lots of court cases to stop Lisa's father from threatening her.

My daughter met another man, who'd been married before. His first marriage broke up within a year as he didn't get on with his mother-in-law! His wife had an abortion during the marriage as the 'time wasn't right'!

My daughter got pregnant by him (she was 32 at that time!), they got married, had Jess, when Jess was 7 months old, she found she was pregnant again and so they decided to have an abortion! This hurt me so much... but I kept quiet and only offered my support.

Boy there are loads of issues with this guy!

Last year my husband was diagnosed with non-hogkins lymphoma, and had 6 sessions of chemo (fingers crossed, successfully), my brother died of throat cancer last June (she was the last operson to speak to him on the phone – he died half an hour after the call as he just couldn't breath – she made such a drama out of this, in fact turning herself into the 'focal point' of tragedy).

To top all this off, I was texted in August by her husband, never to darken their doorstep again, and I've never heard hide nor hair of them since. I was immediately and pathetically struck from being their facebook friends. Over the following months, Facebook was the only avenue for me to contact my granddaughter – this was discovered by them and I was deleted from being her facebook friend, just a couple days before Christmas.

What am I learning:
1. Above all - I am NOT a nasty person!
2. I definitely don't deserve the sentence of not being able to see my two grandchildren
3. My daughter is callous and hard
4. I was a victim when I lived with a controlling and 'narcissistic' man who blamed me for everything and because 'love is blind', I thought this was my fault.
5. Everything that is wrong in my daughter's life, is not my fault!
6. She has surrounded herself with others who have the same 'issues' as her, they support and reaffirm all the crap she wants to hear. She doesn't want to hear that maybe the problem is with her.
7. The only reason I am getting this grief is because they want to see me destroyed... what else could it be? So I'm determined they are not going to have this pleasure!

I'm not going to take any more crap from her, nor from her husband.

I've created a website for my granddaughter, using her name as the domain name, this is a beacon for when she wants or is able to contact me.

I did send my daughter a Christmas present (I couldn't send her nothing after 34 years) The present was a poem book called 'Point B' here is a Youtube of Sarah Kay reciting her poem: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0snNB1yS3IE

Quote: “There is nothing more beautiful than the way the ocean refuses to stop kissing the shore, no matter how many times it is sent away!” - gorgeous words!

No matter what - my door will always be open for her! I do hope she realises that!

I also hope she realises that I'm no door mat any more! I don't deserve to be treated like this! Neither does any parent deserve this sort of rubbish. As you say Cara, "Where is the Respect!"

It hurts like hell – at the moment I hate her for what she has done. John, my husband, is so very angry with her – he just wants to call her and ask her if she realises the hurt she is causing!

Like Pixie, I grieve everyday, it's the first thing that's on my mind when I wake up, and it's the last thing I remember when I go to sleep. If I wake up in the night, no matter what time it is, my brain starts over and over thinking of this situation.

There is some great advice in this thread! Thank you everyone for your support! Words cannot say how I feel to have discovered a place where others know and understand. Sadly, there are far, far too many suffering.

Hope I've not rambled too long, it is such good therapy to get it down on paper instead of it all swirling around my head!
maggar
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Re: my daughter hates me

Jan 8, 2012 2:06 PM
Yes! I don't know what happen? I guess her mother and me are both to blame! But, my wife refuses to take any blame. Have not spoken to my daughter in a week and its killing me knowing were she is living! I wish she would have stayed in school liks a normal student! God!!
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Jan 8, 2012 1:16 PM
Welcome maggar!
And yes it is sad!!! it is night a soap opera its a horror movie!!! BUT!!!! Thank God we have all found this site. It is comforting to know we are not alone! I know it lifts my spirits just to get a pat on the back or a consoling message on here from those who know the pain! We all ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! XOXOXOXOX
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Jan 8, 2012 11:23 AM
CaraBoo13 Thank you !
This forum helps. Its sad that there are so many people going through this with their kids!
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Jan 8, 2012 7:23 AM
WELCOME MAGGAR AND JENNIE!!!!
Like Pixie said you couldnt have stumbled upon a better place!!!!!!
Jennie You hit the nail on the head! Narcissim definitely plays a role to some degree. However lets add a few more! DISRESPECTFUL>No Conscience! Selfish! Living in a bubble! They create their own dynamics to justify their behavoir in their mean little minds! Then they try to suck the poor unsuspecting parents into their realm of the reality they created. They assume parents give unconditional love and they can treat us however they please. They Cannot beat up on their friends or boyfriend or girlfriends so they take they frustrations out on us! Something we never would have even thought of doing to our parents! BECAUSE???? WE had respect and fear of hurting our parents. It doesnt matter what you may have instilled in your children growing up...Peer pressure and Even what they are taught in school seemed to take priority for the way they turned out! BUT for those of us who have suffered the Heartbreak, the betrayal, the lies and humilation you do get to a point where enough is enough!!! There comes a point when NO matter how hard it is.You MUST turn and walk away! Equal treatment! It does effect your health because this has to be one of the most stressful situations to be in...in life. But IMPORTANT! YOU ARE NOT ALONE as you see here. It SOOO HELPS TO SHARE YOUR LOSS and ANGER! It also lets you know you arent the crazy one! Ya know other then ABUSE OR MOLESTATION THERE Is nothing So horrible a parent can do a child to deserve what they dish out. I too told my daughter the Person I knew died 8 years ago and dont recognize the Person she has become. I do not regret saying it. I told her I have had 8 years to grieve the loss of the beautiful woman I thought I raised. She is 38. It is amazing how one outsider can twist them into a pretzel. But FAKE LOVE and Infatuation is a powerful thing! Along with a controlling personality! Most strong people can see beyond it and eventually wake up. But then for some reason others fall into that trap and just never seem to get out. SO! All you can really do IS come here Vent, Cry , laugh along with all of us!!!! And Pray that some day they get a clue before its too late. Please Know every one truly understand and appreciates the turmoil you are feeling. As Pixie said No one is judging here! No Need to walk on egg shells with any of us. AND NO Need to feel guilty for your child's short commings!!! Please Keep us all posted . We Are all Strong and must HANG TOUGH!!!!
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Jan 8, 2012 6:37 AM
Hi everyone. I am so depressed I don't know what to do! To summarize:
My 18 year old daughter has been so disrespectful, condescending and out and out malaise to me in the last 6 years. Her mother is a classic enabler. Never discipline her at all. When I tried I was just the bad guy!
Now she has gone off to college. I gave her a car and tried to help her as much as I can and show her how much I love her. But I have a wife that fights against me every step of the way( her mother and I have not had the best of relationships in the last 8 years, married 28 years). This holiday season sucked!
She met a boy( not a man) of 24 last spring and now left school to come down to move in with him in a dump!!! Not telling me anything about it! Says she is taking online courses for this spring semester and will transfer to a school down here for the fall.. She was a A- B student through H.S.
New Years day was the final straw. I told her I wanted the car back and that I no longer had a daughter!! My heart is broken! But, I can no longer be treated this way. She was very good at playing me when she wanted something as well. Being her father I always fell for it. I got her some Christmas presents( even for her boyfriend) She got me nothing. I texted Happy New Year to her. She called her mom to wish a happy New Year to her. Nothing to me!! ( I know these are just stupid little things) but just her attitude!! I can't take it! Who in the hell does she think she is? God I could write a book!!

I have non nothing but want to love her and help her! But how much can a father take? :(
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Jan 8, 2012 2:24 AM
I've just landed on this thread this morning, so I've not read it all yet. I just wanted to say that I have found here, words that explain how I am feeling. I felt tremendous painful feelings because of my daughter's actions, made worse because I just couldn't find the words to explain the pain. Thank you all here for helping me find some of those words.

For us the festive season was the pits as I hadn't heard from my daughter. Like most here, I'm glad it is now 12 months away till next Christmas.

There is one word that helped though, I discovered it just before Christmas and this was 'Narcissism'. I had sort of heard of the word, but didn't really know what it meant. Then for some reason I bought a book (How to Identify Narcissism in Ourselves and Others and What We Can Do about It) and BANG the lights were switch on. You don't have to buy the book, just do a google search.

As mothers we are not always to blame - although our narcissistic children and spouses would have us believe we are! It makes them feel better for being what they are and what they do.

God Bless all those mums, dads and grandparents that are suffering! Just wish this pain would end for us all!
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Jan 7, 2012 9:40 PM
> I too have a daughter who hates me. She speaks to her father and now her brother, but not me. She has blocked me on her Facebook page, and now that she has become friends with her brother again, talks about her father and me all the time. My husband either is in denial or truly cannot see what is going on. This past Christmas was extremely sad for me. I felt like an outsider. She lives in Europe and while we were visiting her brother and his wife she called and wished them both a merry Christmas, along with her father while I had to just sit and wait for the call to end, which by the way went on for an hour. To make matters worse she has a new baby of 5 months that I have no contact with or photos. I grieve on a daily basis. I try hard to forget but cannot. I want to run away from it all.

Welcome to the group. You are a member of a, not so exclusive, club. Thought u were alone in this didn't u? Well, you absolutely are NOT ALONE. We have all experienced this kind of attitude and heartbreak with one of our kids. The women here are very wise and give great advice. They are all non-judgmental and we have all been through what your going through. You could not have found a better place to come to vent or found a more sympathetic group of many, many, ears (or eyes in this case). My son blocked me from his FB page too, so i recipricated and did the same thing to him. He's a "big college student" and is ashamed of where he grew up and his family. His loss because he has a pretty great family. We had a pretty good xmas without him, i.e. nobody walking on eggshells so as not to ruffle his feathers, the ackward long periods of silence and the stress that causes, etc. I've been dealing with this situation for 13 years now. The hurt doesn't go away, but it does get easier to cope. I'm sorry your are experiencing this kind of misery.
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