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:8} This is kind of like a little poll.
reply the answers as you read the question.
HOW SAFE DO YOU THINK THE INTERNET REALLY IS, ESPECIALLY FOR YOUNG PEOPLES?
a) very safe
b) kind of safe
c) not safe at all
Last Post Sep 14, 2006 12:02 PM by: jbcoops
jbcoops
Posts: 37
From: Forest Grove, OR
Registered: 6/20/06
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Re: Online

Sep 14, 2006 12:02 PM
SOL... (and others)

You may think I'm picking on you (and you may be right). But I've offered a number of proactive actions you can take to *improve the situation*. So far you've made it abundantly clear that your position is for parents to teach their kids to be safe online (a good suggestion but it's more likely that teens know more about Net Safety than their parents) and/or take a do nothing/ignore attitude towards pretty much what goes on, especially in the area of cyberbullying.

I've listened to you, but have you listened to me? Have you visited any of the sites where you can make this a better world (takingitglobal, nabuur, etc.)? How about teaching others how to be safe online. BTW, assuming your surfing on a PC now from home, do you login with a limited account so that you won't get zapped by any virus page you land on (since you can't install executables from a limited account).

Remember, the adults here *are not against kids using the Net, especially even MySpace or gaming sites*. Indeed, I could argue (and have done so here) for educational uses of MySpace. I've also suggested you form a MySpace group at school and take some kind of leadership role there. Of course, your peers have something to say about this and all of them have Net (and other) savvy.

One of the key skills that you as a student need for the 21st Century is the ability to work with others and collaborate. Work together (and play together) to solve problems. Game theory is just starting to really take off in education. Kids love to play games and have fun. I say "great"! Can we find a way for them to have fun and learn at the same time? Maybe. I'd argue that some first person shooters (on WWII and Vietnam for instance) might make excellent papers in your Social Studies class. Have you ever thought about using the Net to create an alternative assignment for one of your classes?

I think kids, and everyone else for that matter, should have fun and yes, learn, on the Net. I also firmly believe that we are *all here to help each other and not just ourselves*. If you're cyberbullying others, then quit it... what does it really get you? If you're not helping others then ask yourself why not. If you're doing things online that you shouldn't, well, you know what they are and certainly if you're going to argue for adults to leave you alone then you should take responsibility for it yourself.

I'm all about safety and support. I caught my eldest visiting porn one day (the same day). Punishment? Yeah... I originally banned him from being online for a while (cut the punishment later) but more importantly had a good talk with him about porn, women, growing up etc. It's the not the first and it's not the last of many talks to come. I certainly agree with you and urge you to talk to your parents, and parents talk to your kids. I also agree that filtering software really isn't the answer for most (but maybe not all) parents. I also 100% agree with you that it shouldn't be the first line of defense and there are much better ways to deal with things. Finally I strongly support the position that JSN doesn't work on most students (if not almost all).

I'm glad you're on board here, as well as the other teens that are sharing your thoughts. I'd like to recommend that you get other teens, teachers, parents here to discuss issues and receive support.

Regards,

Jeff Cooper
Education Technology Support Consultant

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Edited by jbcoops at 09/14/2006 12:05 PM
son of liberty
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From: anytown, USA
Registered: 6/28/06
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Re: Online

Sep 13, 2006 4:42 PM
AMEN (those are the exact words I've said so many times before, but despite that, nobody listens).


by the way a

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Edited by son of liberty at 09/13/2006 4:43 PM
fuzzybutton
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Re: Online

Sep 10, 2006 4:55 PM
The internet is rarely different from real life.. We have people impersonating otheres, people raping/molesting children/and adults who are too damn nosey. Seriously, adults, raise your child with common sense and you won't have to be nosey and ruin whatever relationship you have with them by violating thier privacy.
Anne
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Registered: 6/26/06
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Re: Online

Sep 7, 2006 1:32 PM
You're absolutely right on all counts, Hannah - 1) that it's pretty safe if you're smart about what you post and who you respond to (like no one you don't know in "real life"), 2) that there are a lot of people impersonating celebrities (and teachers and peers) on the social networks, and 3) that you never know if someone is who they say they are. There really is no way to find out for sure. You can ask the profile owner, but there's no guarantee they'll tell you the truth. Skepticism is a healthy attitude to have online about any profile or blog by anyone you don't know in person. Otherwise, you could be communicating with someone just looking for their 15 minutes of fame!
Anne
BlogSafety.com co-director
Hannah Banana-x-
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From: Scunthorpe
Registered: 9/7/06
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Re: Online

Sep 7, 2006 1:11 PM
Its kind of safe aslong as you dont give out any personal information. I am 13 years old & i dont no how to find this out so i thought i could come here to ask. But theres alot of people impersonating famous people and i dont no if there real & they all have these things from bebo saying that there real but i think they just made them. And is there anyway of finding out if they are real because some are very convincing & Younger kids could tell them anything just because they think there real but they might not be.
From Hannah http://hana-banana-x-.bebo.com
That is my profile x
Anne
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Re: Online

Sep 1, 2006 11:35 AM
That's a tough one, Trublondi. To me, it's like asking if life is very safe, kind of safe, or not safe at all. I think of the Internet as a microcosm of human life (a less and less microcosm, actually). Maybe it'd be easier to answer if you had a "(d) it depends."

So why do you ask? Are you curious to see if anyone would answer "very safe"?
Anne
BlogSafety.com

trublondi
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From: united states
Registered: 9/1/06
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Online

Sep 1, 2006 11:06 AM
:8} This is kind of like a little poll.
reply the answers as you read the question.
HOW SAFE DO YOU THINK THE INTERNET REALLY IS, ESPECIALLY FOR YOUNG PEOPLES?
a) very safe
b) kind of safe
c) not safe at all