I know that in the past a perception has existed that Facebook was safer for students than MySpace, but today I would discount the veracity of that claim. In fact, it seems easier right now to gather detailed facts about teens from Facebook than it is from MySpace. Much easier. Virtually anyone can obtain a Facebook account without verfication of any claims. The idea that it's somehow more secure because it requires an invitation from a loosely defined, non-verified group or organization is absurd. Users can invite anyone they want. MySpace pages that are privatized accomplish the same thing in terms of requiring an invitation. Unlike MySpace where actual names are seldom used/seen, both first and last names are published on Facebook. A new user can not only see dozens of photos of the teenager, they can see an actual first and last name, plus the school they attend and what grade they are in. Sounds LESS secure to me. I'm curious if Larry, another forum host, or anyone in the biz here can offer us an update as to their thoughts about safety comparisons between the two sites (particularly for high school students) as of September, 2006. Thanks everyone. -- Edited by Sunday at 09/27/2006 7:32 AM
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Re: Facebook Less Safe than MySpace
Mar 22, 2010 7:01 PM
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What I don't like about facebook for teens is that you can search for their name and picture and then you can see the names and pictures of their friends without going into their page, even if it is locked to friends only. What really needs to happen is students need to be educated on how to keep themselves safe. How not to post a real picture as their profile, but to keep the pictures on their page instead for friends only to see. Education is the name of the game with any social networking site for teens.
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Re: Facebook Less Safe than MySpace
Mar 16, 2010 3:30 PM
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First of all I would like to say that this is a great site with a lot of very good information. The answer to all of this is you have to be smart. Don't talk to strangers. When you set up face book or my space you can make it so they have to be your friends or you have to at least know them before they can access your profile. If someone tries to access your profile that you don't know deny them. The internet is like a whole other world so watch your children. Don't let them have face book or my space accounts unless they are responsible. you set up and control their accounts and have the long in and password put up in a safe place check their accounts frequently to see what is posted their. it comes down to this. You would not take your kids to the park and let them run free with out any super vision so don't do it in the internet world either. Never Ever Ever post pictures of you children online at all. Never post personal information online like your childrens names, where they go to school, your address, phone number etc etc. Last but not least whether you are an adult or a child never meet someone in person that you have chatted with online Just like everything else in the world you can have a pleasant experience on face book or my space if you just follow the rules and use a little common cents
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Re: Facebook Less Safe than MySpace
Apr 19, 2009 6:05 PM
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Hey, I’ve always thought that Facebook is safer than MySpace. But I guess I still needed to see the other side of the coin. I’ve never really considered that MySpace does, in fact, seldom let others see/use the actual names of its users whereas in Facebook, important info like the first and last name and the school and grade I attend are indeed displayed so much in the open. For now, my answer to the question would be a YES!
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Re: Facebook Less Safe than MySpace
Apr 14, 2009 9:56 AM
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i think myspace is a lot safer than facebook and even though i have a facebook and not a myspace i shall post this. My reasons: 1) i have been told that on people on facebook can take your pic and sell it. Is this true? 2) facebook has apps that says "do u want to let facebook know of your username, pass, blah, blah, blah
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Re: Facebook Less Safe than MySpace
Oct 27, 2006 10:43 PM
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Thank you for your perspective on this, Demexii - and for the screenshots, xposure to Facebook and MySpace privacy features a lot of parents and educators can't get.
Anne
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Demexii
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Re: Facebook Less Safe than MySpace
Oct 27, 2006 6:26 PM
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Facebook is much safer than Myspace. Myspace is open by default and one would have to turn on the privacy options to close it to others. And then it is closed to everyone even those who go to your school. Facebook works in a way that is different. First, you need to be invited into a network. So after you register one must invite you into that school's network before you can see their profiles. Then, when in the network, you can only see those who have their pages open and not set to private. To be able to see those who are set to private you need to become friends. And most likely someone will notice that and say something if you don't belong to that network. As well, you can't really go from network and network since the profiles are not open. You can view the friends of friends of friends if they allow it (I believe it is on by default) but that is the most you can get. So, no, you can't see their pictures of them being drunk on Halloween. I use Facebook to post things that I only want my friends to see and Myspace for everything that I want to be public. So I want to show pictures of me winning a game somewhere I will post it on Myspace and make a blog about how much fun it was. Then, afterwards, I will go to Facebook upload the same pictures and the extra ones that might be "bad" (such as things that might upset my parents  ). They can not get access to my profile without getting an account and being invited into the network, something I would not let them do. A picture of the security for search. Security for seeing a profile and information. And, to be fair, Myspace's security. -- You win some, you lose some. But in the end, just make sure you beat the crap out of your enemy. -- Edited by Demexii at 10/27/2006 7:06 PM -- Edited by Demexii at 10/27/2006 7:10 PM
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Re: Facebook Less Safe than MySpace
Oct 25, 2006 7:02 PM
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Well, This site I do have to say is amazing I mean I put in my opinion and its actually heard from a police officer this is thee way society need to work. Opinions need to be heard from all Big and Small I cant thank you enough I will definatily be visiting this site more. ~WRRY
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Re: Facebook Less Safe than MySpace
Oct 22, 2006 11:53 AM
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Great info, Randy. Thank you so much for posting! It's all so individual, isn't it? There just is no one-size-fits-all-solution, which means that - more than ever before - "it takes a village" to make the Internet safer for kids. For example, even young people who observe well-thought-out family Internet-use rules and policies aren't necessarily going to have risk-free online experiences. Larry recently interviewed a psychologist who told him we need to be wary of "compliant kids," or kids who always obey the rules for whatever reason (to please adults, for validation, etc.), because, the psychologist said, they can be most vulnerable to predators' grooming (efforts to win a child's confidence in order to manipulate him or her toward his goals - see "How to recognize grooming").
As we develop a good "village" with lots of skill sets (including those of teens, experts in at-risk behavior, First Amendment lawyers, and law enforcement), we'd like to see more work on self-policing, or "neighborhood watch" programs in social sites, building on what we've learned from the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline, which has a strong presence on MySpace because they've seen that teens are the first to detect suicidal tendencies in their peers and can get their peers help. Another example is an informal program of musicians on MySpace who are advising fellow users on safe socializing. In-community protection is another important tool in the online-safety toolbox. Tx again, Randy.
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Re: Facebook Less Safe than MySpace
Oct 22, 2006 9:37 AM
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Let me first say that I think blogsafety.com is an amazing site! I would like to comment from my perspective...a police officer/detective who investigates Internet crimes against children. I talk to kids, parents, teachers, AND the predators. I like a lot of what I have read in this post and I have a couple of comments: 1. Anne says, "I think by their nature, social-networking sites just can't guarantee user safety". I agree 100%. There is always some degree of risk to kids that they may connect with dangerous people no matter where they are on the Internet. It doesn't have to be an online community like Facebook or MySpace. I have had investigations involving predators going after kids on gaming sites, online groups, photo storage sites, different messenger services, and other online services. 2. gtpsych said, "It is still a choice to belong to said networks. It's a choice to be listed in the phone book. It's a choice to leave your home. The best way to protect yourself is to simply not be dumb. Don't engage in unsafe meetings. Don't take unnecessary risks" I wish it were that simple! Not all young people (or older for that matter) make careful and well thought out decisions. Peer pressure, teen perceptions and attitudes, etc are all factors in determining what choices we make. We are all different and make different choices based on who we are and the life we live. I have seen good kids who are Internet savvy tricked and lured into inappropriate stuff by predators. One of the most prolific predators my office was involved in obtained information from hundreds of kids simply using a carefully thought out "social networking" strategy. He gained thier trust and, without the kids knowing he was doing it, he obtained key information about them and their accounts. 3. About the privacy thing, I tell parents that the risks are too high to give your kids unsupervised access to the Internet. We all need our privacy! Having said that, young people should not expect to get that privacy while online. Of course the 17 year will be monitored differently that the 11 year old depending on level of maturity, honesty and trustworthiness. Parents need to know where their kids are going online, who they are talking to, and what they are talking about. (I know that won't sit well with some) 4. I loved what theebayk1d said, "I believe the best way to moniter your child's account if you wish to do so is make your own account and become familar with the site maybe even get some of your friends on there". I have started telling parents to ask their kids to teach them about the Internet. Have the kids help the parents create online profiles and places on whatever social networking site they want. Create a blog, instant messenger accounts, etc. The bottom line is adults need to get as connected as young people. The Internet is a huge part of our kids lives so if adults want to be effective parents they need to know about their kids world. Sorry about being long winded. Anne and Larry...keep up the good work! Randy -- Detective Randy Wickins Edmonton Police Service Alberta Integrated Child Exploitation Team
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Re: Facebook Less Safe than MySpace
Oct 21, 2006 11:04 PM
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Great to get your perspective, Will - thanks!
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Re: Facebook Less Safe than MySpace
Oct 21, 2006 9:03 PM
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Well I have to say as a Seventeen Year Old Highschool Student who has a Mysapce and a Facebook account. I have to say if my parents were to ever login in as me even if were for my safety I say thats an invasion of privacy. I would be glad to show them my account. Theres nothing on there I am hiding but logining on as your kid is not right. Futhermore, I believe the best way to moniter your child's account if you wish to do so is make your own account and become familar with the site maybe even get some of your friends on there. According to the privacy issues between the 2 places. I do belive both have gone to great lengths to potect the kids using them but they always need the parents reenforcing that. The contact information on there is normal. Also I could easily find infomration on almost anyone in the world I want wiether they are on myspace or not its not hard at all what you need to worry about rather than other people is your own childs account. I believe it to be alright to list things such as an email or instant message name but as for a telephone espuically home certainly not. As for either place being less safe the only factor I have to say is... Facebook had a news release as they were selling information after this world spread there is now an option you must uncheck in privacy. So you must do that. Otherwise I find them really equal. ~Will
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Re: Facebook Less Safe than MySpace
Oct 16, 2006 7:26 PM
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So we should stay away from Facebook? Personally I have never heard of it and use myspace. I'd like more information about it. -- Edited by TheLadyEmily at 10/17/2006 8:07 AM
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Re: Facebook Less Safe than MySpace
Oct 12, 2006 3:58 PM
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I have to say that your argument is rediculous. 1) The contact information provided on facebook, with the exception of AIM screennames, is all available in university and high school directories. In order to get your hands on a University Directory, you just have to go to the university website. In order to get a High School directory, you have to have physical access to the school or a single student. Again, this information is freely available through other sources. 2) High school students today have grown up with this technology, at least its predecessors, which parents have not. Social Networking software shares information in a way that hasn't been done before and the people most apt to deal with its ramifications are the people who are growing up with and developing it, not the people who are afraid of it because it wasn't around when they were kids. 3) Myspace remains completely uncontrolled. Anyone can sign up for an account. Anyone can view complete profiles (with the exceptions of full size pictures and video) without any acces control or access logs. Any personal information chosen to be shared is completely open. 4) It is still a choice to belong to said networks. It's a choice to be listed in the phone book. It's a choice to leave your home. The best way to protect yourself is to simply not be dumb. Don't engage in unsafe meetings. Don't take unnecessary risks. Lastly, all I want to say is stop bitching about supposed problems that you don't understand.
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Re: Facebook Less Safe than MySpace
Sep 28, 2006 11:59 AM
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Sunday, your response to a spokesperson's post is understandable, and I heard you about the net positive (I agree). But I'd like to ask you more about your "jumping the fence" comment. You mean if someone already has an account in one Facebook network, s/he can easily access the full pages of people in another? Was that your experience logging in as your daughter? Assuming she's in a high school network, could you access the full pages of anyone in a .edu network? My little experiment yesterday indicated to me that it'd be very hard for, say, a sexual predator to have full access to university student (h.s. students can't be searched) unless s/he was on that person's friends list. That creates a fairly good barrier because s/he has to be responded to by a student found on the network and added. At the high school level, it'd be pretty unlikely someone would be invited to join the network and added to a friends list unless the adult were some "sweet old" pedophile uncle invited in by, say, a niece who doesn't know him very well (but why would a kid want an adult on his/her friends list?). In college networks, I guess adult university employees have searchable access to msg or poke, but they also can't see students' full profiles unless they're on friends' lists, right? So there are potential risks, but pretty minimal, realistically, and the members of campus networks are mostly adults anyway, presumably a little more street savvy than teenagers. Of course the entire social-networking universe is based on a kind of honor system about being who you say you are (which is sketchier on some sites), so you in effect had enormous access as an adult because you were logged in as your daughter, right? Tell me what you experienced that I'm missing.
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Re: Facebook Less Safe than MySpace
Sep 28, 2006 6:53 AM
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Larry, What would you expect Facebook to say? It's on the market with unconfirmed reports of a $2 billion "ask". I totally disagree with the information their spokesperson is providing. Jumping the fence on Facebook is easy and there is more information there than there typically is on MySpace. It's that simple. If you have one members account information you can access an entire (and large) group of teens providing information about how to contact them. In fact, Facebook includes e-mail addresses on most profile pages. It's a fact. Anyone with access to one member's page has access to (potentially) hundreds of fellow students' cell phone numbers. It's like an addendum to the high school phone directory, including photos, e-mail addresses, class schedules and cell phone numbers! It's also a great site. I have no problem with it. That said, parents need to be fully informed about its safety issues and risks. Let Facebook publish its propaganda as part of its sales pitch to potential buyers. I hope they are very successful; they deserve a great price. Just don't let them infer that parents are stupid on their way to the bank. Thanks.
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